Species · Silicates

Olivine

Olivine is a group name, not a species: forsterite Mg2SiO4 and fayalite Fe2SiO4 are its common ends, hardness 6.5 to 7. How to read an olivine or peridot label.

IMA status No row named olivine on the September 2026 IMA list. Species rows: forsterite, G, 1824, Italy; fayalite, G, 1840, Portugal; tephroite, the manganese member, G, 1823, USACalcio-olivine Ca2(SiO4), Rd, 2007 s.p.: a separate species, the only row containing the wordHandbook group 4 of the 7 orthorhombic M2SiO4 sheets used here print Olivine group: forsterite, fayalite, tephroite, liebenbergiteEnd members Mg2SiO4 forsterite, Fe2SiO4 fayalite, Mn2SiO4 tephroite, Ni2SiO4 liebenbergite (IMA writes Mg2(SiO4) and so on)Crystal system and cleavage Orthorhombic, space group Pbnm on all seven sheets (kirschsteinite by analogy); cleavage imperfect, fracture conchoidalHardness 7 (forsterite); 6.5 to 7 (fayalite); 6 to 6.5 (liebenbergite); 6 (tephroite)Density (measured) 3.275 (forsterite) to 4.392 (fayalite); 3.87 to 4.12 (tephroite); 4.60 (liebenbergite)Cleavage and fracture {010} and {100}, imperfect (forsterite, fayalite); conchoidal; brittleThe 50% line In a magnesium-iron olivine: more than 23.40% MgO by mass is forsterite, less is fayalite (worked below)Peridot (USGS) Hardness 7, specific gravity 3.22 to 3.45, olive to lime green; magnesium iron silicateMg2SiO4 on the IMA list Three rows, three structures: forsterite, wadsleyite, ringwoodite

Olivine is a group name, not a species: no row on the September 2026 IMA list is called olivine. A label reading olivine usually means the forsterite-fayalite series, Mg2SiO4 to Fe2SiO4: orthorhombic, hardness 6.5 to 7, density 3.275 to 4.392. Which species it is depends on whether magnesium or iron dominates; peridot is the gem name.

In short

  • No mineral called plain olivine is on the September 2026 IMA-CNMNC Master List. A search of the list for the word returns one row, calcio-olivine, Ca2(SiO4), status Rd, 2007 s.p.: a separate calcium species that shares its formula with larnite. A label reading olivine is a group determination; the species are forsterite, fayalite, tephroite and liebenbergite.
  • Four Handbook sheets file themselves under Olivine group. We read the Mineral Group field on the seven Handbook of Mineralogy sheets with an orthorhombic Pbnm cell and a two-cation SiO4 formula. Forsterite, fayalite, tephroite and liebenbergite print Olivine group. Monticellite, kirschsteinite and glaucochroite print no group, and we add none.
  • The 50% line, worked. Half-and-half MgFeSiO4 is 23.40% MgO and 41.71% FeO by mass on standard atomic weights. A magnesium-iron olivine analysis above 23.40% MgO is forsterite; below it, fayalite. The species is named for the dominant cation, which is the largest, not necessarily a majority.
  • Density separates the ends, not the middle. A 20.00 g piece weighs 13.89 g in water as forsterite (3.275) and 15.45 g as fayalite (4.392), the same method as the live amethyst and fluorite pages. A reading between the two does not convert to a composition without a calibration this page does not have.
  • Peridot is the gem name. The USGS gemstone list gives Peridot [Olivine]: hardness 7, specific gravity 3.22 to 3.45, olive to lime green, magnesium iron silicate. The naming question is set out on is olivine the same as peridot and is not repeated here.
The seven orthorhombic M2SiO4 Handbook sheets used on this page, with their rows on the September 2026 IMA list; dominant cation worked from each sheet's own analysis; in-water weight worked as 20 - 20/D
SpeciesIMA formulaIMA status, yearGroup on the Handbook sheetHardnessDensity (measured)20.00 g piece in waterSeries on the sheetDominant cation in the sheet's analysis
ForsteriteMg2(SiO4)G; 1824Olivine group73.27513.89 gWith fayalite; with tephroiteMg 98.9% (Mogok, Myanmar)
FayaliteFe2+2(SiO4)G; 1840Olivine group6.5 to 74.39215.45 gWith forsterite; with tephroiteFe 99.6% (Brocken massif, Germany)
TephroiteMn2+2(SiO4)G; 1823Olivine group63.87 to 4.1214.83 to 15.15 gWith fayalite; with forsteriteMn 89.6% (Benallt mine, Wales)
LiebenbergiteNi2(SiO4)A; 1972-033Olivine group6 to 6.54.6015.65 gNone printedNi 75.4% (Bon Accord, South Africa)
MonticelliteCaMg(SiO4)G; 1831None printed5 to 5.53.03 to 3.2713.40 to 13.88 gWith kirschsteiniteNot applicable: Ca and Mg are both essential
KirschsteiniteCaFe2+(SiO4)G; 1957None printed; space group given by analogy to the olivine groupNot determined3.43414.18 gWith monticelliteNot applicable: Ca and Fe are both essential
GlaucochroiteCaMn2+(SiO4)G; 1899None printedAbout 63.40714.13 gNone printedNot applicable: Ca and Mn are both essential

Is olivine a mineral? A group name with four Handbook members

First check: the IMA list. The September 2026 IMA-CNMNC Master List has no row for olivine. A case-insensitive search of the list finds the word once, in calcio-olivine, Ca2(SiO4), status Rd, 2007 s.p. Larnite, also Ca2(SiO4), is a separate row with the same formula, so the formula alone does not name a species. The rows that matter for an olivine label are forsterite, Mg2(SiO4), G, 1824, Italy; fayalite, Fe2+2(SiO4), G, 1840, Portugal; tephroite, Mn2+2(SiO4), G, 1823, USA; and liebenbergite, Ni2(SiO4), A, IMA 1972-033, South Africa.

Second check: what the Handbook sheets say about themselves. We fetched the seven Handbook sheets for species with an orthorhombic Pbnm cell and a two-cation SiO4 formula, and read each Mineral Group field by script. Four print Olivine group: forsterite, fayalite, tephroite and liebenbergite. Monticellite, kirschsteinite and glaucochroite print none. The kirschsteinite sheet gives its space group as Pbnm by analogy to the olivine group, which is a statement about its structure, not its group. This page does not add them to the group.

This page is filed under olivine deliberately, as the reference page for that label name. The apatite, tourmaline and axinite pages treat their group names the same way. The magnesium end member has its own page, forsterite, with the Mogok Fo-number calculation and the hardness comparison against green look-alikes.

Forsterite or fayalite? The 50 per cent line, worked

The rule: name the specimen for the dominant cation at the M sites. The IMA-CNMNC’s rule of the dominant constituent is the general principle. For a series with only magnesium and iron, dominance flips at the midpoint, MgFeSiO4. On standard atomic weights that composition has a formula mass of 172.23 and is 23.40% MgO, 41.71% FeO and 34.89% SiO2. Above 23.40% MgO the olivine is forsterite; below it, fayalite. The end members are 57.29% MgO (forsterite) and 70.51% FeO (fayalite).

Worked on the Handbook’s own analyses, dividing each oxide percentage by its formula mass and comparing the cations:

  • Mogok district, Myanmar: MgO 57.83, FeO 1.11. Mg is 98.9% of the cations: forsterite. The forsterite page shows this one in full.
  • Brocken massif, Germany: FeO 69.48, MnO 0.28. Fe is 99.6%: fayalite.
  • Benallt mine, Wales: MnO 65.23, CaO 2.32, MgO 1.98, FeO 1.20. Mn is 89.6%: tephroite, the manganese member.
  • Bon Accord, South Africa: NiO 56.32, MgO 6.50, FeO 4.37, CoO 1.80. Ni is 75.4%: liebenbergite, the nickel member.

The 23.40% line holds only for a binary. Once manganese, nickel or calcium enter, compare cation proportions, not one oxide. Pure end members by mass: forsterite is 34.55% magnesium, fayalite 54.81% iron, tephroite 54.41% manganese and liebenbergite 56.04% nickel. A label reading olivine with no analysis should stay a group label, and the form is on how to label and catalogue a mineral collection.

Can you tell olivines apart by weighing them? Only the ends

Weigh in air, then suspended in water. A 20.00 g piece weighs 20 − 20/D in water. Forsterite gives 13.89 g and fayalite 15.45 g, 1.56 g apart. Tephroite, 14.83 to 15.15 g, and liebenbergite, 15.65 g, fall near the iron end. The method is on how to measure specific gravity at home.

What the scale cannot do. It cannot convert an in-between reading into a Fo number; we have no published calibration to quote. Nor can it separate forsterite from monticellite: monticellite’s 3.03 to 3.27 gives 13.40 to 13.88 g, against forsterite’s 13.89 g. Hardness does that, 5 to 5.5 against 7. The USGS gives peridot a specific gravity of 3.22 to 3.45, which is 13.79 to 14.20 g, at the magnesium end.

Same atoms, different minerals. The forsterite sheet records it as trimorphous with ringwoodite and wadsleyite. The IMA list prints the three formulas differently: Mg2(SiO4) for forsterite, Mg2SiO4 for wadsleyite (IMA 1982-012), SiMg2O4 for ringwoodite (IMA 1968-036, Australia). Their sheets describe ringwoodite as rounded grains to 100 µm and wadsleyite as aggregates with grains to 5.0 µm. Neither is a hand-specimen mineral. Polymorphs in general are on crystal vs mineral.

Where olivine-group minerals are found, including Wales, Devon and Cornwall

Forsterite is in mafic and ultramafic igneous rocks and thermally metamorphosed impure dolomitic limestones. Its sheet lists Monte Somma and Vesuvius; Ojamo, Finland; the Kovdor massif; Peridot Mesa, Arizona; Mogok; Sapat, Pakistan; and Zabargad in the Red Sea. Fayalite is in ultramafic and, less commonly, felsic rocks and lithophysae in obsidian. Its sheet lists Obsidian Cliff, Yellowstone; the St. Peters Dome area near Pikes Peak; Rockport, Massachusetts; the Brocken massif; and the Skaergaard intrusion, Greenland.

Neither the forsterite nor the fayalite sheet names a British locality. Tephroite does. It forms in iron-manganese ore deposits, skarns and metamorphosed manganese-rich sediments. Its sheet lists the Benallt mine, Rhiw, Lleyn Peninsula, Wales; the Meldon quarry, Okehampton, Devon; and the Treburland mine, Altarnun, Cornwall. It also lists Franklin and Sterling Hill, New Jersey; Långban, Sweden; and the Wessels mine, South Africa.

Liebenbergite has one locality on its sheet: three km west of the Scotia Talc mine, Bon Accord, Barberton, South Africa, as grains to 1 mm. Monticellite, which has no group on its sheet, lists Camas Mòr on the Isle of Muck, Scotland, and Scawt Hill, Co. Antrim. The rest of the reference section is at the species index. We hold no catalogue and nothing here is offered for sale; the wanted list is the only commercial route.

Questions

Is olivine a mineral?
Not as a single species. The September 2026 IMA list has no row for olivine; the species are forsterite, fayalite, tephroite and liebenbergite, which their Handbook sheets file under olivine group. The Handbook forsterite sheet records two series, with fayalite and with tephroite.
Is peridot olivine?
Peridot is the gem name. The USGS Natural Gemstones page lists Peridot [Olivine], magnesium iron silicate, hardness 7, specific gravity 3.22 to 3.45, olive to lime green. Those figures sit at the forsterite end of the series.
How do you tell forsterite from fayalite?
By composition: whichever of magnesium or iron is dominant names it. That is the IMA’s rule of the dominant constituent, discussed by Hawthorne 2023, Mineralogical Magazine 87. For a magnesium-iron olivine the line is 23.40% MgO by mass. In the hand, density helps at the ends: 3.275 against 4.392.
How hard is olivine?
6.5 to 7 across the forsterite-fayalite series: forsterite 7, fayalite 6.5 to 7 on the Handbook sheets. The manganese member tephroite is 6 and the nickel member liebenbergite 6 to 6.5.
Is olivine found in Britain?
The forsterite and fayalite sheets name no British locality. The tephroite sheet lists the Benallt mine in Wales, the Meldon quarry in Devon and the Treburland mine in Cornwall. We add none.